In the space of the last few months I have teetered back and forth between feeling negatively and positively about my abilities and future performance in the trading world shortly ahead for me.
When I came across Tim Sykes's material I got a rush of inspiration. I ordered his DVD How to make Millions. I hated the idea of trading stocks, but thought to myself "If this is the way to make money, I need to overcome that and do this."
I began to feel negative about Forex trading due to Tim expressing his negativity about it. It really threw me off. So I put the majority of my efforts towards learning his methods of stock trading.
In the last few weeks I have had a lot of time to digest things and I have also come across a man named Jason Stapleton on YouTube. He is a professional Forex trader and has some really excellent free material. I mean top notch no bullshit instruction. Consuming his material with lots of focus centered me quite a bit and allowed me to focus on some things. Some things I had forgotten, and some things I hadn't yet realized. Here are my thoughts:
Tim does indeed have a pretty awesome strategy. It not only makes sense, but is most importantly available to pretty much anyone who can open an account and start trading. If you are disciplined and do as he says, I believe you will over time make money. The biggest benefit of Tim's strategy in my opinion, is that it is quite predictable. Shady companies that pay promoters to pump up the stock price always fail eventually. In all honesty however, I feel that is where the advantages of his methods fall short in contrast to trading Forex.
On what will seem like a total side note, a long time ago I purchased a Trading robot from Rob Booker called "the Mouse Trap". I became interested in it after hearing Rob and his friend Chris Davison talk about it in one of his very early podcasts. I purchased the robot and backtested it in Metatrader and sure enough, it would turn a $10,000 deposit into millions over a period of years. Upon Seeing those results I had decided to leave my desktop on at home with the robot running to see how it did with live trading. As the numbers suggested, it only won about 15% of the time. I let it run long enough to lose a lot and then one good winner brought it back to where I had started it. Shortly after that, I decided I wanted to have my computer on the road with me so I took it along. Being that I couldn't keep that computer connected to the internet 24/7 I no longer ran the mouse trap, and thus eventually forgot about it altogether and began later on focusing on using the other robot I bought from Rob, "the Box".
Anyways, watching Jason's videos happened to remind me of a very critical element in the trading world: Statistics. More importantly, statistics derived from back testing. You see, when a methodology has very strict rule based entries and exits, it's performance can be repeated again and again through back testing and also applied to "forward testing". That is where Tim's strategy fails. Yes he has a track record of profitability, but it's his track record. And his entries and exits are based more on guidelines than strict mechanical rules. His track record is a direct reflection of his personal experience, which is entirely unique to him.
With the mouse trap, each entry is rule based and uses no subjectivity whatsoever. I was reminded of this while watching Jason's video about what he calls "The 2618" trade. I won't get into the details, but in the two and half hour video he shows you the precise rules for entry and exit that leave no room for subjectivity. He then shows you exact statistics that system has produced over a 12 month period. That is what I needed.
I needed numbers. I needed results. Why? Well, in another video Jason made the point of exactly why I needed them. Statistics give us a basis for belief, which when built to a level of certainty causes us to take massive action. Massive action then produces massive results, which again feed our beliefs. I am a person that has always taken a level of high action when I believe in something fully. Remember the network marketing company I maxed out my credit cards to be a part of? I spent that $3,000 because I had a statistical number I believed in, and that was a very small number. They had found that only about 3% of people responded and that was enough to get me thinking massive and acting massive.
The fact that Tim only provides guidelines effectively hampers one's ability to gain concrete back-tested data to build certainty on. I have a few other points in mind that I wish to express as well.
Anytime Tim speaks about leverage, he always speaks negatively about it and usually attaches Forex trading along with it for a group scalding. What I need to say is that Tim is always reminding us that penny stocks are the only financial instrument he knows of that moves 50% in a day, which is why he tauts it as the best way to "get rich". The point I want to make is that the leverage in Forex allows the currency market to basically scale it's gains and losses to that of Tim's penny stock realm. With that said.. Yes, yes, leverage can be dangerous, but so can any financial instrument in the hands of the uninitiated.
As I digested Tim's material internally while simultaneously taking in Jason's material, it began to become clear to me what had happened in my heart and mind. The same thing that happens to all who lose their personal sovereignty at the words of a Guru: You begin to believe without question what you are told. Here is Tim, a very successful trader worth millions, showing you exactly how he made his millions, telling you with authority that Forex trading and using leverage will get you essentially nowhere but owing your broker money. A light bulb came on over my head. Tim spoke so negatively about Forex trading because all he ever heard about was people losing money. He had always been obsessed with Stocks and hated on Forex without experiencing it for himself. Had he been successful in Forex, he'd probably be hating on stocks just like I did before I took the time to understand how they work. It doesn't matter who you are, or how much you know about your specialty... Your authority only covers what you yourself are an expert at. As a truck driver I have come across people who only drive trucks, that sit there and try to convince me I can't do what I do on my street bike, even though I do it all the time. I can't tell you how many people I have come across that have spoken with authority about things I can't do, that I have already done successfully. I simply realized that Tim was no different than someone telling me I'm going to destroy the transmission in my bike because I don't shift with the clutch. They don't know shit about what I do or how it works, and unfortunately, neither does Tim. In fact, Tim mentions over and over again throughout his materials, his ignorance of the Forex market. I am not bashing Tim about any of this, just expressing what came to light in my mind about it all.
So, aside from the Leverage issue, There are some other comparison in which I am now starting to feel that penny stocks are not as great as I initially thought. There is a long list of issues that may make mechanical Forex trading look much better by the end of this.
First of all is the giant setback of what is called the Pattern Day Trader Rule, which restrict anyone who has less than $25,000 in their account to only 3 trades per 5 day rolling period. Which ultimately limits you to two trades unless you plan on holding that third position until you can legally exit it again... With Forex you are free to trade as many times as you want.
A large part of Tim's strategy when playing pump and dump stocks, is going short. Well, if you plan on shorting a penny stock, you first have to reserve shares to short otherwise you risk missing the trade altogether. Secondly, for any stock below $2.50 you still have to put up collateral for that stock as if it were $2.50 anyways. Want to short 10,000 shares of a $.10 stock? Although the value of that trade is only $1,000 you'll need to have $25,000 in your account just to put the trade on. In Forex you trade whatever your account will allow you. After that issue is the short stock restriction. If the stock falls 10% on the day you can't short the stock unless it upticks first. In Forex you can short at any time the market will fill your order. Lastly is liquidity. In penny stocks, a lot of the volatility produced comes from the fact that there are very few shares to trade at times. I won't go into numbers, but the shift from penny stocks to the Forex market is literally going from one of the least liquid instruments to the most liquid instrument on Earth. For those of you who don't understand liquidity, liquidity refers to the ease of which you can enter and exit a transaction. Real Estate is very illiquid, the majority of high priced stocks are very liquid, and the currency markets are the most liquid. The larger position you transact, the more liquid you want your market to be, otherwise you suffer what is called "Slippage". That is when the market's supply cannot meet your demand and the price changes out of your favor until enough supply is met to fulfill your demand. I could explain in depth but now is not the time.
I truly love what Tim does. I am not knocking it in anyway and I am in fact glad I purchased his DVD. It's taught me some valuable things and I can carry that over to other parts of my trading. Well worth every penny and if you love stock trading you should go buy it.
It however as I've mentioned previously, does not come with built in predictable metrics you can build belief upon. You must first adhere to guidelines as best you can until you produce enough results to analyze for yourself. This can take an enormous amount of time, an amount that can hold many back. I am sure if someone had the time and interest they could create a set of strict, non-subjective rules regarding Tim's system and go backtest it for solid statistics, but I don't think that will even enter the minds of the people he is reaching because he doesn't think or teach from that frame of mind at all. I think the belief generated in the minds of his students comes mainly from testimonials of other successful students. The ones who have applied serious study and application of what Tim teaches and made it personal for themselves as much as Tim has made it personal for himself. I have simply lost interest for the time being as I need more to go on that other people successes. I need numbers, and Tim has no way to provide them.
The Mouse Trap on the other hand... I just ran a backtest for the last 16 months and got real hard numbers. It lost a small percentage in that time, but in the last few years has made a significant return. But that is not what matters to me at the moment and it is certainly not why I wrote this post. What matters, is that I know what I have to do. I have to stick to numbers, because I am a person that needs belief to act. I had so much doubt in myself since the inception of this blog, even with the incredible success of the robot in the early posts. Yes, I was kinda building a database that I could look back on later, but it was based on random feelings. There were no objective rules in place that would make any of that duplicable, just a hunch that over the long term I would make money. I still have that hunch, but I don't want fucking hunches I want belief.
So when I get home and have legitimate time, I need to make rules that will allow success to be definable and repeatable with a system that fits my personality. I will explore Jason's offering of the 2618 trade and probably others he has for sale, but I'm most interested in producing numbers with my methods described in this blog. Preferably in a market with none of the restrictions that, to me, outweigh the benefits of an eventual outcome.
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Sunday, April 26, 2015
Wednesday, January 21, 2015
Small Update
Hey, if feels like a long time since I last posted. I have been feeling like shit about trading for a lot of reasons, but I have continued to study Tim's DVD and take it in bit by bit. I've just been feeling beat down over seeing losses in this account, even though they are fake and I don't intend to actually trade this way. It still is effecting me negatively and it sucks.
Some positive news is that I finally found a program to setup a remote desktop connection between my computer out on the road and my laptop at home! To my surprise you can actually use Google chrome browser with an app called remote connection, so that is cool. Best part about it is, I don't have to waste loads of time trying to set things up and forward ports or static IPs or anything like that. It's VERY simple so if you need to do it, just download chrome and the remote connection app and you can literally be setup in like 60 seconds. You can't transfer files, but I don't need to do that. I just need to control my laptop.
So with that said, I logged on the other night to see how it works and I took this screen shot.
I just so happened to have gotten creamed with several losses in a row, with a few chances to take 3x profits.
At that point I raised the trade size from 10k per trade to 20k basically hoping to come back later and find myself in a profit. I noticed this morning there was a significant loss and have just now logged on to check it out. Apparently there was some news and in a matter of a few minutes there were 7 losses in a row. with opportunity to gain it back as well, but that is hindsight trading of course.
Tomorrow the minimum bid rate for the ECB (Central bank) comes out so it will be interesting to see how the market responds to that. I'll be waking up and on the road right around the time it is happening so I won't be able to manage it really. I might place the robot and just see the results I don't know.
Anyways, on the Tim front and the trading thoughts in my mind... Part of me is just really scared of staying home to trade and making a fool out of myself with all of this, and there is another part of me that wants to be determined to make it work no matter how long that takes. I mean, isn't that the point of never giving up? I have really been wondering just how likely it is for a person with a small account to actually grow it to the point of living off of it. And I mean, if they have no one to take care of them and cover bills in the mean time. That was my plan last year but things came up. I wanted to have a years worth of rent saved up and a small account to start with and see how it went. You know I listen to the traders podcast with Rob Booker, and I enjoy it quite a bit but not nearly as much as I used to. Ever since listening to Tim and watching his YouTube videos and seeing his transparency... I find a natural voice in my mind asking why Rob is not so transparent... He says he posts charts of his trades on his twitter and I haven't been a part of that so I don't know, but I just find that I am not getting what feels like any real meat out of that podcast anymore. Hell, it's really just a 20 minute conversation anymore about things I find rather insignificant. It feels more like cheer leading than anything of true value. While I recognize that a positive attitude is a great thing, so is a plan backed up by past results, and Rob doesn't offer that even in his trading course I bought... Tim has around 3,900 documented trades and a statistical 76% win rate with an average winner of around $2,300. That is the kind of thing that inspires what really matters: Educated confidence.
And as I write that I can almost hear Rob commenting to his audience, and specifically to me, that it's up to me to do the work and find the results I can be confident in. That has been a backbone of the journey I am documenting with this blog, but the reality is I am not going to just set a robot and forget it. I have yet to share my most likely strategy for forex trading on this blog yet, but suffice it to say it is not one that can be employed or even studied while I am on the road. It must be done live and in person and carefully studied so I can have real results to calculate.
I myself feeling like a quitter and a loser for being less active on this blog, even though from the start I never made any promises about it. It doesn't help that since that initial decline in performance it has just kept on going and has basically taken me back to break even. It is not confidence inspiring.
Let me try and give you a good parallel. I think it is kinda like turning on the news and seeing story after story of horrible things done by horrible people. Even though what you are witnessing may not be done in your country or directly impact you in a real way, it still has an impact on your psyche. Terrorism may not be present in your neighborhood, your town, or even your state... But it could anger and scare the shit out of you (like it does me) and cause results in your real life that otherwise would not have been happening.
I guess part of me is wondering if there is really anything positive about seeing all these losses over what is basically just random robotic trading losses. Part of it really is the gathering of data for the purpose of seeing if in the long term prices will move far enough in one direction to be profitable overall... But it has been a real battle to keep reminding myself that those losses are a result of a way I do not truly intend to trade, that those losses should not and do not reflect who I am personally as some kind of loser.
A large problem for me in all of this is the frustration I feel at seeing those losses while also seeing times that I could have taken profits if I had been paying attention, but the losses make it emotionally hard and too frustrating at times to even open the chart and look. I won't honestly be able to be at home and trade the way I want to until july. My desire, besides trading Tim's strategy, is to trade forex around huge news announcements like tomorrows Minimum bid rate (interest rate) because it makes the most sense to me to limit my trading to only the most volatile moves. I truly am starting to feel that trading any time otherwise is damn near close to a waste of time for me and my personality.
So if I stop updating the blog with certain things, or at all, it is probably because I have no energy for it or have determined to be ultimately not a positive use of time. I can't say either way what will happen but I wanted to say that regardless.
On one last note, I have started playing Skyrim on my PC and although I can't say it is quite my thing as it doesn't have guns, I am finding it a pleasurable use of my time, especially because I have modded the hell out of it with followers, and texture packs. So, maybe I'll post about that who knows haha.
Take care until next time,
-Francisco
Some positive news is that I finally found a program to setup a remote desktop connection between my computer out on the road and my laptop at home! To my surprise you can actually use Google chrome browser with an app called remote connection, so that is cool. Best part about it is, I don't have to waste loads of time trying to set things up and forward ports or static IPs or anything like that. It's VERY simple so if you need to do it, just download chrome and the remote connection app and you can literally be setup in like 60 seconds. You can't transfer files, but I don't need to do that. I just need to control my laptop.
So with that said, I logged on the other night to see how it works and I took this screen shot.
I just so happened to have gotten creamed with several losses in a row, with a few chances to take 3x profits.
At that point I raised the trade size from 10k per trade to 20k basically hoping to come back later and find myself in a profit. I noticed this morning there was a significant loss and have just now logged on to check it out. Apparently there was some news and in a matter of a few minutes there were 7 losses in a row. with opportunity to gain it back as well, but that is hindsight trading of course.
Tomorrow the minimum bid rate for the ECB (Central bank) comes out so it will be interesting to see how the market responds to that. I'll be waking up and on the road right around the time it is happening so I won't be able to manage it really. I might place the robot and just see the results I don't know.
Anyways, on the Tim front and the trading thoughts in my mind... Part of me is just really scared of staying home to trade and making a fool out of myself with all of this, and there is another part of me that wants to be determined to make it work no matter how long that takes. I mean, isn't that the point of never giving up? I have really been wondering just how likely it is for a person with a small account to actually grow it to the point of living off of it. And I mean, if they have no one to take care of them and cover bills in the mean time. That was my plan last year but things came up. I wanted to have a years worth of rent saved up and a small account to start with and see how it went. You know I listen to the traders podcast with Rob Booker, and I enjoy it quite a bit but not nearly as much as I used to. Ever since listening to Tim and watching his YouTube videos and seeing his transparency... I find a natural voice in my mind asking why Rob is not so transparent... He says he posts charts of his trades on his twitter and I haven't been a part of that so I don't know, but I just find that I am not getting what feels like any real meat out of that podcast anymore. Hell, it's really just a 20 minute conversation anymore about things I find rather insignificant. It feels more like cheer leading than anything of true value. While I recognize that a positive attitude is a great thing, so is a plan backed up by past results, and Rob doesn't offer that even in his trading course I bought... Tim has around 3,900 documented trades and a statistical 76% win rate with an average winner of around $2,300. That is the kind of thing that inspires what really matters: Educated confidence.
And as I write that I can almost hear Rob commenting to his audience, and specifically to me, that it's up to me to do the work and find the results I can be confident in. That has been a backbone of the journey I am documenting with this blog, but the reality is I am not going to just set a robot and forget it. I have yet to share my most likely strategy for forex trading on this blog yet, but suffice it to say it is not one that can be employed or even studied while I am on the road. It must be done live and in person and carefully studied so I can have real results to calculate.
I myself feeling like a quitter and a loser for being less active on this blog, even though from the start I never made any promises about it. It doesn't help that since that initial decline in performance it has just kept on going and has basically taken me back to break even. It is not confidence inspiring.
Let me try and give you a good parallel. I think it is kinda like turning on the news and seeing story after story of horrible things done by horrible people. Even though what you are witnessing may not be done in your country or directly impact you in a real way, it still has an impact on your psyche. Terrorism may not be present in your neighborhood, your town, or even your state... But it could anger and scare the shit out of you (like it does me) and cause results in your real life that otherwise would not have been happening.
I guess part of me is wondering if there is really anything positive about seeing all these losses over what is basically just random robotic trading losses. Part of it really is the gathering of data for the purpose of seeing if in the long term prices will move far enough in one direction to be profitable overall... But it has been a real battle to keep reminding myself that those losses are a result of a way I do not truly intend to trade, that those losses should not and do not reflect who I am personally as some kind of loser.
A large problem for me in all of this is the frustration I feel at seeing those losses while also seeing times that I could have taken profits if I had been paying attention, but the losses make it emotionally hard and too frustrating at times to even open the chart and look. I won't honestly be able to be at home and trade the way I want to until july. My desire, besides trading Tim's strategy, is to trade forex around huge news announcements like tomorrows Minimum bid rate (interest rate) because it makes the most sense to me to limit my trading to only the most volatile moves. I truly am starting to feel that trading any time otherwise is damn near close to a waste of time for me and my personality.
So if I stop updating the blog with certain things, or at all, it is probably because I have no energy for it or have determined to be ultimately not a positive use of time. I can't say either way what will happen but I wanted to say that regardless.
On one last note, I have started playing Skyrim on my PC and although I can't say it is quite my thing as it doesn't have guns, I am finding it a pleasurable use of my time, especially because I have modded the hell out of it with followers, and texture packs. So, maybe I'll post about that who knows haha.
Take care until next time,
-Francisco
Monday, November 17, 2014
Explanation of My non-robotic trading
In the beginning of this blog there were screen shots from my phone of trades I was holding that were at a loss. I intend to explain it all, but I must warn you I am pretty tired at the moment and do not have the energy to go into the detail I wish to.
I am pretty sure I already covered how holding your losing trades is basically a cardinal sin of professional trading, however I am here to explain how it can be handled and why I was/am even experimenting with it to begin with.
The bulk of my trading experience has been quickly cutting losers and doing my best to hold onto winners as long as I can. Random side note: My ability to hold onto a winning trade has often led to it turning into a loss, but you'll understand why later.
About a year ago I started listening to "The Traders Podcast" with Rob Booker. I have such a horrible memory about what I have posted or not on this blog its pathetic. What I am sure of however, is that I have not explained to you that Rob sells a trading course for the paltry sum of $27 on his website. He calls it "Trifecta" and has 3 versions of it, which the 3rd is the version I purchased.
Trifecta, as it's name implies, is a trading system built on 3 key ingredients: Divergence, Missed pivots and the break of a trend line. For now, ignore the phrases you don't understand (or Google them) and lets get to the point. When these three ingredients line up, you take a trade. And once you're in a trade, you have to manage that trade...
In the Trifecta course Rob strongly encourages a risk management method he calls "Rollover Trading", which is trading without using a stop loss. Rob has been trading for 14 years and has tried and created lots of different systems. I first read about Rob in a book I bought years ago called "Millionaire Traders". (I rather enjoyed the book even though it really didn't get into anyones methodology specifically in a way the reader could even attempt to replicate.) Damn... I really know how to branch off, can you tell I am unable to really focus right now?
Anyways, over Rob's trading career he's employed several risk management practices and at this point in time prefers trading without using stops for the most part. Now it's basically Heresy for any trading educator to encourage other traders to trade without using stops, but in the case of Rollover trading Rob is very careful to warn traders to trade so small that the market moving against them 500 points (also called PIPs in the currency markets) would equal only a 5% drawdown in their account. A 500 pip move is relatively rare so yeah, it's not much to worry about.
The philosophy behind trading super small positions without stops is based on the markets tendency to correct. All this means is that markets bounce around and change direction a good percentage of the time. Depending on the over all state of things, a market can stay within a relatively predictable range of price fluctuations before breaking out of that range and trending for awhile.
Lots of traders get frustrated by taking losses over and over, just to see the market eventually go where they had originally thought it would. So not only were they right in their direction, they now have a loss on the books instead of a profit.
If you are trading small enough as Rob suggests, the market can move against your position and rather than exiting your trade with a loss, you can actually add to your position and effectively average your entry price. The idea is that when the market finally turns in your favor your average entry price will be closer to current price and you can move into profit and close the trade. Because of averaging your entry price closer and closer to the current price, you can often exit at a profit before the market has gone anywhere near your original profit target.
So, in the charts I have posted where I have not mentioned the trading robot (Basically all charts where the account balance is in the $5,000 range) I am breaking out of the risk strategy I have pretty much always been comfortable with and giving the rollover method a try.
There are things I would like to comment on considering Rob's Trifecta course and things related to it, but those will have to wait. For now just let me say I don't really enjoy this method of trading even though I have made profits with it, and for various reasons have actually come to enjoy Rob and his podcast less. I am sure over time I will elaborate in detail my thoughts. I mean, that is what I am here for anyhow.
I have recently been much more interested in trading with the robot, but just to challenge myself I think I will keep picking out trades to attempt to manage into a profit. I will have to close some at a loss as I did with that last EUR/USD trade, but that's okay.
By the way, I do need to clarify that I am not trading the Trifecta system at all. Once again I will explain why later, but I find no value in trading his method. It has only piqued my interest in trading without stops and only because that enables me to have positions on over a long period of time without having to be at a computer screen for hours managing them. I hope this has brought something to think about and as always please leave a comment or question down below :) I enjoy a good trading dialogue.
-Francisco
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